I'd like to think it put a couple of our questions to rest, although I can't discount the possibility that we could've arrived to the correct conclusion even without it.
[At the end of the day, there were a number of elements that pointed towards Gabimaru--the most he could say is it saved them the trouble of debating where the missing piece had gone.]
[He knows that there's an indignity to having your body treated like a piece of meat, or as a mere object to scrutinized as evidence. Even so, he can't exactly say he regretted the choice; he regrets that he got the rest of the dorm involved, mostly.]
I'd rather it not come to that, but I'd do it again if it's necessary. We can't afford to miss any crucial details when people's lives are at risk.
[ and here we are. in the state of infinite fleshball and infinite fridges... but, thankfully, we can move away from that just slightly— ]
I mean that there are answers for what we're looking for, but they just aren't going to be explained in ways that we would expect of them.
[ he's going to summarize/rephrase what he told apple and elan. (...also so that it can be a neat little thread here if we wish it to be.) will it be more helpful here? who knows but...the more often he says it maybe it'll click into someone's head. ]
That there's a connection between the chatter that we hear from the Extras and— [ cue nothing but absolute nonsensical noises and gibberish coming out of lavi's mouth* for a while as he speaks. fortunately it ends with lavi just sighing. ] —aren't different.
[The abrupt shift to whatever that... noise is that comes from Lavi's direction is jarring, but it illustrates his point handily enough. They can circle back to the part about the Extras after--for now, he's curious about the apparent inability to say what he's trying to convey.]
I see... I suppose that would be too easy.
[in the opinion of whom, well. that remains to be seen, but.]
Are you only restricted from saying specific words and phrases, or is connected to intent?
[ ... he's pretty sure he knows the answer to this already, but maybe it's still worth a shot. maybe if he tries it differently. ]
Chorus. Extra. Memories.
[ and with the hope that louis understood exactly what lavi was saying there, he tries a different route that, unfortunately, gives a repeat of the absolutely absurd noises and words that louis heard just earlier. lavi will keep on talking for a while but the next time that louis will actually be able to understand lavi, it'll seem to be at the end. ]
[Lavi had already given the first half(?) of that before, so at least he has some context, even as he tries to consider the implications of what's being said.]
[ how (un)fortunate for louis that lavi has no problem remembering exactly what he said just seconds ago word-for-word. ...it's just that it won't do him any favors to repeat them again. ]
Four sentences. I rambled in each of them with the hopes that more of it would fall through, but it doesn't look like it worked.
[ or maybe he should change up what he says? that still could work... ]
So far keeping things simple has the best results.
[ here we are abusing lavi's eidetic memory, i see... ]
The first sentence that I said had fourteen words and three of those words that I spoke were ones that you understood when I said them individually: chorus, Extra, and memory.
[ in fact, he could tell louis how many words he said in each of the previous statements he tried to make. don't mind the next words out of lavi's mouth* (or maybe do?) as he tries something else. ...with...re...sults..? ]
Imagine not having a body and what all you could do with that. You could probably climb the walls and become as tall as towers. You could be anything you want.
Wouldn't you love to have the ability to do something like that?
[ this is good news!! here he was just letting himself say words until maybe something would bleed over correctly. he doesn't know what translated over but... if louis understood then that's what's important. ]
I was just trying to think of a different way to communicate the same information. I didn't say too much differently but just how I thought about it.
let him just slightly rephrase the part that's most important to him. ]
You could compare a library to an ocean in terms of the knowledge you could gain. It's vast and deep, but the only thing that holds you back is yourself.
[ time is fake and lavi will give a "ding ding" noise the best way he can with a celebratory honk when dehya makes her connection. obviously he could turn back into a shadow for this but he doesn’t want to here.
look! we're making progress here!!! though lavi will sound geniunely sentimental as he voices the next bit. ]
It was thanks to you all that I know that I'm Lavi.
[She's right! That brightens her up a bit.] It was starting to slip--I think it's this place, because it was only happening to you and Gabimaru and I wouldn't forget you just like that.
[Maybe much like the way it took their secrets from them.
Though if memory is the difference, that slots something else into place for Dehya.] Sika told me before to treat the extras like they're people, and we're not the first troupe... the extras are probably previous troupes, right? With no one left to remember them or help them remember who they are.
[ ohh!! lavi will sound particularly interested in what she's saying here because it's the confirmation of something that he had entertained while he was still alive. (originally i wrote "look" but he cannot see so lmao me.)
he can definitely keep working with though. maybe together, anyway. ]
It would make sense, wouldn't it?
[ a game like this with a being like "father"... of course this wouldn't be the first time. but what would that mean for the others? their stories... ]
They feel and sound like real people. [ ...if he must be real for a moment. ] ...just like I do.
Right. [So if extras are the dead that are forgotten, then everyone who dies here becomes an extra once the troupe is done...] So I'll make sure I don't forget you.
[It was already important to hold onto those memories, but now it's non-negotiable. She'll have to start writing things down.] Let's see, extra, memory, chorus, you're different from extras because of memory so... you're the chorus?
[ thank you dehya for catching on and being able to make sense of what lavi was struggling to communicate. admittedly, there's still a bit more that he wants to communicate, but this is a great place to start...especially since the rest is a bit more complicated. ]
Except no one's asking me to sing.
[ thinks. ]
Unless being able to turn into a car counts towards that, but I'm not familiar enough with cars to draw any conclusions.
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Did it help? Y'know. Keeping that part of me around.
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[At the end of the day, there were a number of elements that pointed towards Gabimaru--the most he could say is it saved them the trouble of debating where the missing piece had gone.]
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[ he can read between the lines. he sees you, louis, but at the same time, does it really matter?
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kind of does, honestly. especially considering a question that has now come to mind: ]
Are you going to be doing more of that?
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I'd rather it not come to that, but I'd do it again if it's necessary. We can't afford to miss any crucial details when people's lives are at risk.
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As unpleasant as it all is... I would also prefer it if none of you ended up missing crucial evidence.
[ is he enabling this? probably? maybe?? look, he just gets it. ]
For reasons that I haven't been able to properly find a way to communicate.
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In any case, his interest is piqued because what is that supposed to mean...]
What do you mean by that?
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I mean that there are answers for what we're looking for, but they just aren't going to be explained in ways that we would expect of them.
[ he's going to summarize/rephrase what he told apple and elan. (...also so that it can be a neat little thread here if we wish it to be.) will it be more helpful here? who knows but...the more often he says it maybe it'll click into someone's head. ]
That there's a connection between the chatter that we hear from the Extras and— [ cue nothing but absolute nonsensical noises and gibberish coming out of lavi's mouth* for a while as he speaks. fortunately it ends with lavi just sighing. ] —aren't different.
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I see... I suppose that would be too easy.
[in the opinion of whom, well. that remains to be seen, but.]
Are you only restricted from saying specific words and phrases, or is connected to intent?
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Chorus. Extra. Memories.
[ and with the hope that louis understood exactly what lavi was saying there, he tries a different route that, unfortunately, gives a repeat of the absolutely absurd noises and words that louis heard just earlier. lavi will keep on talking for a while but the next time that louis will actually be able to understand lavi, it'll seem to be at the end. ]
—I assume you didn't catch that.
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I didn't. How many sentences was that?
[he has an idea, but...]
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Four sentences. I rambled in each of them with the hopes that more of it would fall through, but it doesn't look like it worked.
[ or maybe he should change up what he says? that still could work... ]
So far keeping things simple has the best results.
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Let's stick to that, then. I'd like to test out a different method, though.
[He goes to retrieve a notebook and pen so he can write this down for his own reference.]
Think of a sentence you weren't able to say, and tell me how many words you're using. It's probably best to keep this one short, though.
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The first sentence that I said had fourteen words and three of those words that I spoke were ones that you understood when I said them individually: chorus, Extra, and memory.
[ in fact, he could tell louis how many words he said in each of the previous statements he tried to make. don't mind the next words out of lavi's mouth* (or maybe do?) as he tries something else. ...with...re...sults..? ]
Imagine not having a body and what all you could do with that. You could probably climb the walls and become as tall as towers. You could be anything you want.
Wouldn't you love to have the ability to do something like that?
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[But then Lavi comes out with... all of that, and he'll write that down too because he's a very diligent notetaker apparently.]
I understood all of that. [Just as a confirmation, in case he was wondering.] What were you trying that time?
[Sounded like a thought experiment or well. Actually a decent description of the state Lavi was in right now, come to think of it.]
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[ this is good news!! here he was just letting himself say words until maybe something would bleed over correctly. he doesn't know what translated over but... if louis understood then that's what's important. ]
I was just trying to think of a different way to communicate the same information. I didn't say too much differently but just how I thought about it.
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let him just slightly rephrase the part that's most important to him. ]
You could compare a library to an ocean in terms of the knowledge you could gain. It's vast and deep, but the only thing that holds you back is yourself.
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Does the way you're different from the Extras... have to do with memories?
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look! we're making progress here!!! though lavi will sound geniunely sentimental as he voices the next bit. ]
It was thanks to you all that I know that I'm Lavi.
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[Maybe much like the way it took their secrets from them.
Though if memory is the difference, that slots something else into place for Dehya.] Sika told me before to treat the extras like they're people, and we're not the first troupe... the extras are probably previous troupes, right? With no one left to remember them or help them remember who they are.
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he can definitely keep working with though. maybe together, anyway. ]
It would make sense, wouldn't it?
[ a game like this with a being like "father"... of course this wouldn't be the first time. but what would that mean for the others? their stories... ]
They feel and sound like real people. [ ...if he must be real for a moment. ] ...just like I do.
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[It was already important to hold onto those memories, but now it's non-negotiable. She'll have to start writing things down.] Let's see, extra, memory, chorus, you're different from extras because of memory so... you're the chorus?
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Except no one's asking me to sing.
[ thinks. ]
Unless being able to turn into a car counts towards that, but I'm not familiar enough with cars to draw any conclusions.
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